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Forum: Genealogy

Wrong Names on BIrth Certificate

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Aug. 22

My 86 year old brother died Aug 15, 2009 and when the family was putting together the Obituary...and the funeral director wanted the birth certificate..it was noted that the birth parents had the wrong names! My nephew emailed me a copy of the birth certificate, his birthday was 2-26-1923 but the certificate was stamped l987 and typewritten from Cook Co., Illinois.Father's correct name was Edgar Emer Webster, Jr, and Mothers name was Lily E. Engman But Birth Certificate says" Father: Edgar Elmer Webster and Mother: Elizabeth E. Engman" Is it worth trying to get it corrected at this late date? Or even possible? He was in the Army, college and etc where a birth certificate was asked for and could this possibly have been a typing error since it does not appear to be an original but a copy! It is not signed by the Dr and etc. see attached file

 
 
Aug. 23

Hi, Patricia.

Another interesting dilemma, eh? First, let me say that there is some misundertanding about the use of the word "COPY". The certificate you posted, from 1987, is as true and exact a copy as you will ever get your hands on. There is only ONE ORIGINAL, and that is held by the state of Illinois. Anything that leaves their office is a certified copy like the one you received..and it's a photocopy. If this photocopy doesn't have the signature you expect (like that of the doctor, etc.) you can rest assured that those signatures don't exist on the original either. The typing that you noticed is from the date of your brother's birth, 1923, and would not have been altered since the time he was born. It has not been 're-typed'.

For legal reasons, a certified copy is a true and legal document and can be used for college admissions, miliarty enlistment, passports, etc.

Now, changing the birth certificate might be more difficult than you think. But let me ask you..... does your OWN birth certificate reflect the same names of your parents? Or how about the certificates of your other siblings. If the data confilicts itself from sibling to sibling, it might be easier to fix. But if everyone else's certificate is correct, then you might just want to leave things alone.

This kind of stuff has happened to me lots of times in my searches. And now that BCs are easier to come by and we don't have to pay for them, I've been pulling birth records of family members in the hopes of finding the full names of my great-greatgrandparents. Same thing is happening... I'm getting different names or initials and some Jr.s and some not.... all from the same batch of siblings. It does amaze me that there is no real consistency between the certificates. You'd think someone would have noticed by now!

So here's the rub. We learn that birth certificates are primary sources of information since they were completed at the time of birth. But the only data on there that is REALLY ACCURATE is the actual birth date...and I guess, even that can be subject to a type-o. Even our best documents are subject to human error, and that is just something that will keep our descendants on their toes.

You might want to make as many notes in your family files as possible noting this problem. Maybe you'll save the next generation a ton of grief as they sort this out.

 
 
Aug. 23

Rebecca, thanks for the insight! I only have a form from the County I was born in and it has no parents names on it. I'm checking with the other sibling's children.. I'm the last living sibling out of 6 children and "sort of" the family historian. It costs so much to get copies from the state of Ill.. and I'm on a limited income.. I have been negligent about getting information from the state. What state do you get them for free??? Patricia

 
 
Aug. 26

Hi, Patricia.

Many birth certificates are now free on Familysearch.org. I's also starting to find some on ancestry.com.

Let me know if you find what you need on Family Search. If not, I'll try to help find a site for Illinois.

 
 
Aug. 27

Thanks Rebecca .. I checked Family Search.org and could find nothing re: any of my Three Brothers all born in Cook CO. Ill. in 1920, 1921 and 1923. I'm still waiting to hear from their children to see if I can get copies of birth and death records.. but Young people today are not too interested in Genealogy.. at least none in my family.. so I have to really beg and keep reminding them to give me the information.I have found the the records for Illinois are slow to be digitized!! Cost for copies- long form =$15.00 or $10.00 for short form. I can't find any FREE records available.
"Birth Records (Illinois)
Access to birth records is restricted due to privacy rights and fraud prevention. Uncertified copies of birth records for genealogical purposes are available to individuals who may not otherwise be entitled to receive a certified copy if the person's date of birth precedes the current date by 75 years or more. A copy of the birth record of any deceased individual may be obtained by completing a special application form and showing proof of the death. You may request this special application, only for birth records after 1916, form at vitalrecords@idph.state.il.us"

 
 
Aug. 28

I'm from Illinois and I don't know of any free birth certicates. Would love to find somewhere for them. Although I was at WIU library and they had IRAD, which is state archives. I found my mothers birth certicate on a microfilm. I was shocked. It was for my county and had some birth certicates and death certicates etc. But if you find a free site let me know too.
I didn't know Family Search had birth certicates. How do you get to them. I have trouble finding a lot of the files. I guess I need to go there more often.

Phyllis

 
 
Aug. 30

Instead of a certified copy, you can get just a copy. There's a difference in cost. In our county a copy is $3 and a certified copy,I think, is about $7. A lot of difference. I would think a copy is all we need. Different counties charge different amounts, so be sure and ask.
Phyllis

 
 
Aug. 30

I tried to find some birth certificates on Family Search, too and couldn't. Maybe the ones I was looking for just weren't available.

Suzanne

 
 
Aug. 31

Without going diggin around on Family Search, I can say that the birth records I've found are on the pilot program. The site isn't complete by a long shot, but I've found lots of my relatives...and I mean LOTS.

I'm off to some appointments, but when I get back, I'll try to send some specific links.

Rebecca

 
 
Aug. 31

Thanks for all your messages. I have noticed that MN, WI, MI,and many counties in Ohio & probably some other midwestern states have been very slow to digitize material!! The need for volunteers is GREAT!! Libraries have lost about 1/3 of their funding the last few years and use volunteers to help get much of the genealogy material.I'm only 60 miles from the Fort Wayne Genealogy Library but at my age I'm hesitant to drive in the city traffic anymore.. so I try to get as much as I can from the Internet. Heritage Quest and Ancestry through my local Library and help from the HP Genealogy CLasses and the classmates are really the BEST help!!Thanks to you all! Patricia

 
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